4 Jun 2010

Cumbria: boy says killer ‘stared him in the eyes’

Jordan Williams, 9, tells Channel 4 News North of England correspondent Nick Martin that Cumbria gunman Derrick Bird stared him “in the eyes” before shooting a passing cyclist and driving off.

Jordan Williams, from the Cumbrian village of Seascale, was on his way to buy an ice cream with his mother and friend, when Derrick Bird’s car approached them.

“We were just walking past a curve near the shop,” he said, “when this person on his bike just came up and the driver just came, shot his back wheel and then shot his face, on the cheek.

“He just stared at me and my mum in the eyes and drove off.

“I didn’t really know what was going on” he continued. “I was like, I don’t know why you’d do that. It’s shocking really. I don’t know why a person would do such a thing like that”.

“He looked a bit mad”, Jordan said of Bird. “He didn’t look very happy. It was scary.”

The young boy went on to describe the cyclist who had been shot. The man now known to be 64-year- old Michael Pike.

“He was just lying on the wall. Loads of blood running all over his shirt” he said.

Jordan also spoke about sixty-six-year-old Jane Robinson, the other lady from his village, who was shot by Bird whilst delivering Betterware catalogues.

“And then I heard about Jane back up there that she got shot as well” he said. “She’s nice, she’s got a twin sister as well. I would normally see her walking up and down there and we’d have a bit of a chat.

“I’ve been alright since it happened.” Jordan continued.

“I’ve been trying to stay calm and not think about it. We had a talk about it when we was in the pictures. We talked it through.”

Jordan has had a nightmare since the shooting: “I dreamt he came alive and came round and killed more people” he said.

Meanwhile a taxi driver says he is “lucky to be alive” after Derrick Bird shot at him. Paul Wilson told Channel 4 News: “I heard my name called out, turned round… Birdy and his car were by the road next to me.

“I said ‘hello Birdy’ and ‘bang’, a shotgun fired straight in my face, just out of the blue, unexpected.

“I didn’t even realise I’d been shot.”