Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has become something of a poster-boy for Europe’s far right. He’s portrayed himself as the defender of a white, Christian Hungary at risk from refugees and migrants. His government has rewritten the constitution, tightened control over the media and remodelled the justice system. Now in his fourth term in office, he’s taken his immigration battle to Brussels and challenged Old Europe’s power dynamic. We talked to Zoltan Kovacs, a spokesperson for the Hungarian government, and began by asking him if its stance on refugees and migrants was humane.