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ignorance and abstinence | then came the swinging sixties...
so are we sorted now? | are long term relationships to blame? | getting real about expectations of sex? | when there are problems about sex | help and info


by Helen P Howard

Sex is how we begin life here on the planet and what we spend an awful lot of time thinking about. According to the pioneering sex researcher Kinsey, men think about sex on average at least once every 30 minutes — and probably a darned sight more than that on a hot summer's day surrounded by scantily clad lovelies. Women's interest in sex seems more to ebb and flow in a way hard to pin down with 'average' statistics, but research shows that levels of women's sexual interest can at the very least keep pace with men's. Women are more influenced by hormonal waves — nature's promptings to keep the human race breeding — than we might predict, with sexual desire often peaking at the time when a woman is ovulating and most fertile.

Thinking or fantasising about sex — which we do often — is one thing. Talking about it is quite another. Talking about sex openly in a truthful and intimate way with the person you're having sex with is for many an uncrossable hurdle, a final taboo of the 21st century. Why is it, no double meaning deliberately intended, so hard?

 

ignorance and abstinence

The roots of the widespread human insecurities and complexities which revolve around what is in essence a simple animal act reach into our not so past history. Victorian attitudes to sex, masking shame with silence, persisted long into the last century. A man in the first half of the 20th century who wanted sex with a 'nice' girl usually had to pay a price — marriage. Whilst today's bride or bridegroom will have an average of 10 sexual partners before tying the knot, back then the score was more often than not zero. But whilst marriage avowedly passported couples to sexual union, women and men in the 1920s, 1930s and even later, still found themselves going up the aisle with a wealth of information about etiquette but stricken with poverty over the facts of life.

Lifelong virgin Clare Smith, now 95, interviewed on the Channel 4 programme Virgin Sex, described her wedding night thus: 'We were so innocent my husband and I didn't even know what having sex was. We both wore thick pyjamas and he played the mouth organ in bed all the time. I married twice and I never had sex. It didn't bother me, what you don't know, you don't miss.'

Virgin marriages were apparently created first out of sexual ignorance but later continued as such out of disgust for or fear of sex. Uncertainties over sexual orientation prompted others to wed, but the official blessing did not always magically translate into personal sexual fulfilment within marriage.

Fear of getting pregnant was another strong motivating factor not to go the whole way — couples wanted to limit the number of mouths to feed. In the absence of reliable methods of contraception, withdrawal before coitus and abstinence were the reasons behind why birth rates plummeted in the 20th century and many families produced only the 'standard' two children.

Perhaps surprisingly, sexless marriages seem not to be confined to the pre-modern era. Dominic Carman, only child of the more famous George, wrote a book, No Ordinary Man, about his eminently famous QC father's life. Published after his father's death, in 2002, the story exposed the sexless nature of George Carman's three marriages. The first was unconsummated and the two which followed both largely celibate — although the account is contested by Carman's live-in lover, who nursed the dying man (and who is also writing her own book).

Celibacy in marriage as a matter of informed consent by both partners was put forward as a valid and worthwhile choice by journalist Liz Hodgkinson who wrote a runaway bestseller in 1986 (see help and info). Whilst it caught the media's ever roving eye for a story about sex, as a personal option for the writer it did not last long — Hodgkinson's own marriage foundered two years after publication.

But for many couples during the last century, the sexless nature of marriage was at the insistence of the wife — and was deemed a price too high to pay for many husbands. The links between sexual frustration and violence sadly seem obvious, if not inevitable. George Carman was described by his son as viciously violent towards his wives — an added insult being that the QC forced his son to watch.

Sexual violence also grew out of these power imbalanced relationships, incidents being triggered by a wife's refusal to give sex on demand. Ray Rochford, a young husband in the late 1940s interviewed on the Channel 4 programme, Sex on Demand, seems unabashed about his behaviour even now. 'The man was the lord and master. It didn't matter to me whether my wife was tired or had had a bad day, if I wanted sex then I had it,' he says. Men insisted on their conjugal rights — and women were helpless at law to defend themselves. Marital rape was only recently created a crime and few cases were ever reported.

But times were, thankfully, moving on, and women were soon seizing some of that power back, at work, at home and in the bedroom.

 

then came the swinging sixties...

The swinging sixties heralded the sexual revolution and free love; sex was supposedly invented in this decade. What is certainly true is that it was reinvented. The pill broke the inextricable link between sex and pregnancy, and sex could be enjoyed just for the fun of it. Women fought loudly to cast off the shackles of domestic burdens and sexual repression, to discover and celebrate their own sexual wants and desires. Gays came out of their closets too, daring to be open about the joys of same sex relationships; gay communities flourished and grew in numbers, strength and power.

The early flowerings of greater openness about our bodies and their needs — for example, women meeting together to examine their vaginas with mirrors — can all too easily be dismissed as uncool by the generations born since 1970. But compared with the repressive chill which froze sexual energy in the first half of the century, this was joyous release — an atmosphere sizzling with sexual heat and alive with experimentation.

 

so are we sorted now?

The sexually up-for-it Samantha of the TV series, Sex and the City, a stereotypically horny 21st century woman, grabs headlines and provokes a chorus (interestingly, mostly male nowadays) of Mary Whitehouses deploring the rise in female promiscuity. Sex seems everywhere. Articles on orgasm breed like rabbits, talk of the G spot, the G spot for men (inside the anus according to Boy George), S & M, bondage, sex toys, sex in uniform, sex in public places, virtual sex on the internet, sex, sex, sex — it's there for all, whatever takes your fancy.

But for many people, both women and men, their personal experiences of the pleasures of sex and intimacy don't live up to the sex feasts supposedly on offer. When sexual abundance seems to be all around, it's hard to admit you're hungry — even more so if you're starving whilst in a marriage, with its official blessing of sex, or other long term sexual partnership.

 

are long term relationships to blame?

Suzi Godson, writer of the S is for Sex column in the Independent on Sunday believes that 'If love is the drug, then long-term relationships are the 12-step programme.' Godson notes from figures from the National Sexual Attitudes and Lifestyles Survey 2001 that unmarried, cohabiting couples (usually childless and in their 20s) have sex three times a week. The rate of coital frequency drops by about half within the first year of marriage and dips too with age. People between the ages of 33 and 45 have sex only once a week and by the time couples reach 45-55 couples make love only twice a month. Many surveys don't even bother to mention sexual activity for the over 65s on the assumption (false!) that they have given it all up.

Whilst such surveys can provide some reassurance that everyone else isn't having a fantastic time and you're the ones missing out, time runs against couples in two ways. Firstly, as we age and grow familiar (or bored?) with our partners, sex will happen less; secondly, there seems not enough time to do it anyway. Whilst pundits might argue we are sex obsessed, as a nation our real problem is we are work obsessed. If we're not available to our partners — both physically and emotionally — relationships will suffer. And the loneliness of a shared bed, when each partner is living emotionally and sexually distanced from the other, is achingly lonely indeed.

When I worked as a divorce lawyer, I came across two different couples whose communications with one another had sunk to absolute silence, their exchanges of information being limited to written notes for each other. One couple left notes for each other on the hallway table, the other left notes on the stairs. Each couple had devised elaborate ways to ensure that they hardly ever met; cooking, washing and naturally sleeping entirely separately. Very few couples go to such extremes but many couples find that at times in their relationship they draw apart either temporarily or, sadly, permanently. The longer the time you withdraw from your relationship, the harder it becomes to heal the breach and mend the relationship.

 

getting real about expectations of sex?

Couples in mid-life probably need to stop giving themselves — individually and each other — such a hard time and lower expectations to a more manageable level in these high-pressured times. Maybe having sex twice a month seems like a sex desert compared to the carefree, child-free, sexy early years together, but if you're having sex more than once monthly you're doing pretty great — well, at least as great as everyone else.

Anyone who's had children knows that they put barriers up to prevent their mums and dads having sex far more effective than their grandparents did when those mums and dads were in their teens. Having kids is physically and emotionally exhausting, leaving parents running on empty, especially if they're holding down jobs and meeting a zillion other commitments. Running on empty is not a great place to be to have good, or any, sex.

 

when there are problems about sex

Sometimes problems about sex can be just temporary as couples adjust to being parents, and things do get sorted. Julia Cole, a psychosexual therapist with Relate, notes, 'No couple is the same after they've had a baby. Most couples don't realise that their sexual relationship is always going to be shifting, that what worked two years ago is not the answer today.' She recommends that couples become aware of what else is going on in their lives before judging their current sexual intimacy too harshly. 'There are times in a couple's life — during stress, ill health, bereavement, and after childbirth — when there is more ebb than flow. The problem is made worse when couples hold unrealistic expectations and put themselves under too much pressure to conform.'

Men and women naturally respond in very different ways to the birth of their children. Each individual woman and man will have their own unique responses, but a common experience is that women are caught up in strong emotional attachment to their babies whilst their men can feel abandoned. Karen, a 40-year-old whose third baby is now four-and-a-half months recognised that. Quoted in 'Coitus Interruptus' by David Cohen in The Guardian (23 January 2002), she says, 'I'm engaged in what I can only describe as an exclusive love affair with my baby. It's what the baby needs and it's what I need. For the first few months, at least, there's simply no space for my husband.'

From the same article, another husband, Jonathan, aged 33, feels he has been left out in the cold too long. Since the birth of his daughter, now two, his wife has had no interest in sex. 'Sometimes I feel like my wife is giving me a protracted goodbye. And even though I talk to my friends, and they tell me that in time the situation will correct itself, that I must be patient, and even though in my head I know they are right, it sits in my stomach, this feeling of rejection, and longing, and deep, deep loneliness.'

Resuming a sexually intimate relationship after childbirth, or any other time after sex has stopped, is not just as simple as turning a switch back on. But sometimes spending time together as a couple can help you both reconnect.

One great tip, given to me by a wise aunt, was to make sure you get at least one weekend a year away with your partner on your own. No kids. The first time my husband and I took her advice, with the kids safely ensconced with doting grandparents, we looked glumly at each other on Friday night. What would we have to talk about once deprived of all the family chatter? Was there anything interesting left to say? And who was this person anyway? But by Saturday things we're looking up and the pleasures of each weekend trip warm our relationship through the remainder of the year.

But if things seem more serious than can be fixed with time out, the first, very hard but necessary step is working out what the problem is. Trying to break the silence — the taboo almost — about talking about sex may seem impossible at first, but the first step is the hardest and once you dare to open up, your partner may well react with relief that he or she can start talking too.

The problem may be a physical one — childbirth changes women's bodies and can bring unwelcome gifts in its wake, like stress incontinence and vaginal or womb prolapses. If this is the case, talk to your doctor, who might refer you to a physiotherapist for help. (You might like to check out our feature, not tonight — women for whom love is a pain.) Or men can find especially as they grow older that their erection is not as 'high' as before or they become impotent. Again, seek medical help rather than avoid the problem. (Our feature new treatments for impotence may be of interest).

If it's something else, again talking can help. Make sure that you do actually have the space and time to talk — think about the setting and how you can create real time for each other. Sitting by the fire or lighting candles and putting on relaxing music can help you both unwind and be more open with one another. Remembering good sexy times together is a turn-on too — and sharing sexual fantasies with one another can open up new levels of sexual experience.

Learning to be physically close with one another in more nurturing ways can also be deeply pleasurable — couples who have gone on couples' massage classes report that they loved the experience and found they could help each other relax and be physically close at the same time.

When you talk and decide on how you'd like to change things, set achievable goals (be gentle with yourselves!) and make sure that you keep checking out with each other how you're doing. Say you decide to spend an evening a week together, and Rob agrees to be more physically affectionate and give more hugs and Jan agrees to be more responsive in bed — Jan and Rob need to ask each other 'How am I doing? How do you feel about things now? Let me tell you how I'm feeling too..' from time to time.

Sometimes seeking professional help is important. Your GP may have a therapist or counsellor in the practice or they may be able to refer you to a specialist relationship counselling service. You can also approach these organisations yourself (see help and info). All Relate sex therapists, for example, have initially trained as couples counsellors and have then progressed (after selection) to train as sex therapists, so Relate can be a good first point of call for finding someone whom you both could trust. The therapy will be confidential, and an initial assessment meeting with you both together will help you work out if their sex therapy programme is right for you. And at the assessment you can of course check out if you both feel you would have confidence in the therapist — go with your instinctive responses here. If the rapport isn't there, try to find someone else rather than give up at the first hurdle. Only couples who can commit to spending three hours a week on 'homework' (usually pleasurable exercises, initially not involving intercourse), and who can come for one session a week with the therapist ,will go on the programme so it involves quite a time commitment. Each partner will usually have one or two sessions individually, followed by joint sessions. The programme will last as long as feels right and appropriate — sessions will usually last for about an hour. Typically the programme will help with communicating about sex, sometimes finding out more, with an emphasis on behavioural therapy. And you never know until you try…

 

help an info

You might like to check out other related features in the health house:

fifty years of the pill
when love hurts (a feature on some aspects of domestic violence)
a problem shared (relationship counselling)
couples on the rocks (couple counselling)

organisations

relationships and counselling

British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy (BACP)
1 Regent Place
Rugby
Warwickshire CV21 2PJ
Information Line: 0870 443 5252 (Mondays to Fridays 8.45am-5pm)
E-mail: bac@bac.co.uk
Website: www.counselling.co.uk
Can provide a list of private counsellors in your area, plus information on counselling and choosing a counsellor. Telephone or send an SAE to the above address. Alternatively, you can search for a counsellor on the website, which also contains details about membership, training and an extensive publications list.

British Association for Sexual and Relationship Therapy
PO Box 13686
London SW20 9ZH
E-mail: info@basrt.org.uk
Website: www.basrt.org.uk
Can provide details of psychosexual clinics and qualified sex therapists. Please send a stamped addressed envelope to the above address. Details of therapists are also available on the website.

Couple Counselling Scotland
40 North Castle Street
Edinburgh EH2 3BN
Tel: 0131 225 5006 (Mondays to Thursdays 9am-4.30pm, Fridays 9am-4pm)
Helpline: 01382 640 340 (Thursdays 2-4pm)
E-mail: enquires@couplecounselling.org
Website: www.couplecounselling.org
Exists to promote, develop and co-ordinate a confidential counselling service for people in marriage and other intimate personal relationships. To find out about support in your area, phone 0131 225 5006.

Institute of Psychosexual Medicine
12 Chandos Street
Cavendish Square
London W1G 9DR
E-mail: ipm@telinco.co.uk
Website: www.ipm.org.uk
Seeks to promote the study and practice of psychosexual medicine through seminar training and research. Psychosexual medicine is concerned with understanding how emotional factors, not always at a conscious level, interfere with sexual performance and enjoyment. Types of problems successfully managed include chronic pelvic pain, genital pain, lack of orgasm and loss of libido. Members of the public requiring help with sexual problems can send a SAE to the Institute, or e-mail, to receive details of local members.

Relate
Herbert Gray College
Little Church Street
Rugby
Warwickshire CV21 3AP
Tel: 01788 573241 (Mondays to Fridays 9am-5pm)
Website: www.relate.org.uk
The largest relationship counselling organisation in the UK, working from 100 centres throughout England, Wales and Northern Ireland. Offers counselling, psychosexual therapy, and other services to help those experiencing difficulties in any adult couple relationship. Please contact them for details of local centres, services and publications available, or visit the website.

impotence and other health issues

The Impotence Association
PO Box 10296
London SW17 9WH
Helpline: 020 8767 7791 (Mondays to Fridays 9am-5pm)
Website: www.impotence.org.uk
Confidential helpline offering advice and assistance on male and female sexual dysfunction. Provides support and medical information on various sexual problems which men and women can experience. Information leaflets on range of topics are available on the website.

sexual violence — non-consensual sex within marriage

Rape Crisis Federation
7 Mansfield Road
Nottingham NG1 3FB
Tel: 0115 934 8474 (Mondays to Fridays 9am-5pm)
E-mail: info@rapecrisis.co.uk
Website: www.rapecrisis.co.uk
Can refer anyone who has been raped or sexually abused, and their families, friends and partners, to their nearest Rape Crisis Centre which offer advice, information and counselling. Contact details of Rape Crisis Centres are also available on the website, which also features information about rape and sexual violence, court procedures and the law, and myths and facts about rape.

history

Marie Stopes International
Marie Stopes One Call: 0845 300 8090
Website: www.mariestopes.org.uk
Runs a range of reproductive health services including contraception, abortion counselling, well women screening, gynaecological consultations, vasectomy, and psychosexual and relationship counselling.
For abortion and emergency contraception advice, to book an abortion consultation, or to find about other services available near you, call the Marie Stopes One Call number. Their Abortion Help UK website www.abortion-help.co.uk is aimed at women who are considering an abortion, contains straightforward information and advice, looks at the options available, and features answers to FAQ's.
Their sexual health website www.likeitis.org.uk is aimed at young people and is a source of information and advice on puberty, pregnancy, contraception, sex and sexuality.
Historical information about the life and work of Dr Marie Stopes is available on the main website www.mariestopes.org.uk

websites

The Abstain FAQ
www.abstain.com
Humorous and non-religious guide to celibacy, looking at what it means to be celibate, its advantages and disadvantages, details of famous celibate people, a booklist and other resources.

Marital Celibacy
www.duke.edu/~kwmac/marcel.htm
Interesting information and resources on the subject of marital celibacy.

Some Myths and Facts about Rape
www.rapecrisis.co.uk/myths_facts.htm
Dispels the various myths surrounding rape, including the myth that it does not happen within marriage. The fact is that husbands can rape their wives. Rape is sexual acts without the woman's consent. Although rape within marriage has been a crime in Scotland for many years, it is only very recently that a precedent has existed in English law.

The Partner Therapy Group
www.partnertherapy.com
Private organisation that promotes healing, growth and enrichment for straight and gay individuals and partners who have sexual and relationship traumas, difficulties, concerns or issues. Website features information and guidance on sex, relationships and other personal problems.

Relationships
www.ivillage.co.uk/relationships
Features articles, forums and quizzes on topics such as dating, intimacy, marriage, affairs, splitting up and divorce.

Relationshipweb
http://relationshipweb.com
Includes a directory of thousands of relationship links, discussion forums, books, and help on affairs, marriage, dating, divorce, addiction, abuse and break-ups. American-based website.

Sex and Relationships
www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relationships
Features various articles on sex, sexual problems, contraception and relationships, offering information, advice and referrals. Includes the results of a NetDoctor sex survey which highlights the attitudes and activities of adults in Britain.

books

sex and relationships

The Book of the Penis by Maggie Paley (Grove Press, 2000) £8.99
This book looks at the role of the penis in history, art, films, literature, fashion, and practices such as castration, circumcision and piercings, throughout different cultures.

The Good Marriage: How and why love lasts by Judith Wallerstein and Sandra Blakeslee (Bantam Press, 1996) £12.99
Written by an internationally recognised authority on the effect of divorce on children and families, this book fluently mixes storytelling with analysis of the nine 'tasks' of marriage, including The Sixth Task — exploring sexual love and intimacy.

Hot Sex: How to do it by Tracey Cox (Bantam Books, 1998)
This 'how-to' guide is full of practical information and advice on different aspects of sexual technique, sexual etiquette, contraception and STIs, performance problems, sexual fantasies, and gay and lesbian sex.

How To Make Anyone Fall In Love With You by Leil Lowndes (HarperCollins, 1997) £6.99
As the title suggests, this book contains advice and tips for attracting a date, the techniques based on scientific studies regarding the nature of love, and explains how to drive your partner wild in bed.

Reader's Digest Book of Love and Sex by Amanda Roberts and Barbara Padgett Yawn (Reader's Digest, 1997) £24.99
Contains sensitive information and advice on everyday issues surrounding sexuality, sexual health, sexual behaviour and relationships.

Real Sex by Grub Smith (HarperCollins Entertainment, 2000) £5
This book describes how to find and give great pleasure, and lists descriptions of varieties of kisses and the best positions, all written in a humorous style.

Relate: Sex in loving relationships by Sarah Litvinoff (Vermilion, 2001) £7.99
Discusses the problems which may inhibit a fulfilling sex life. Contains practical tasks, quizzes and talking points, and offers practical advice on sexual techniques and guidance on overcoming possible sexual difficulties.

Understanding Sex and Relationships by Rosemary Stones (Sheldon Press, 2001) £6.99
This factual guide to sex, puberty and sexual relationships is aimed at young people, and offers advice and stresses the value of care, commitment and communication in relationships.

Woman's Pleasure or How To Have An Orgasm As Often As You Want by Rachel Swift (Pan, 1994) £6.99
This straightforward guide is a personal account that attempts to teach women how to have as many orgasms as they want.

Women without Sex: The truth about female impotence and other sexual problems by Catherine Kalamis (Self-Help Direct Publishing, 1999) £10.95
This book discusses female impotence and other sexual problems. Covers all physical and emotional problems that can cause pain and lack of desire, and explains how to overcome these.

You Just Don't Understand: Men and women in conversation by Deborah Tannen (Virago 1992) £7.99
A useful explanation of how the two sexes use language in different ways and for different reasons — women to make connections and reinforce intimacy and men to preserve independence and negotiate status — and how once the differences are understood, communication can improve.

history

No Ordinary Man: A life of George Carman QC by Dominic Carman. (Hodder and Stoughton, 2002) £10.99
Frank account of the private life of George Carman QC, who had a successful public life with many high-profile cases and celebrity clients, but a mysterious and previously unknown about private life.

Marie Stopes and the Sexual Revolution by June Rose (Faber and Faber, 1992) out of print
This book looks at the life and views of Marie Stopes, and looks at the publication of Married Love in 1916, her approach to sex, her reputation, and her pioneering work.

Rules of Desire by Cate Haste (Vintage/Ebury, 1994) out of print
Tells the history of changing sexual attitudes in 20th-century Britain. Includes sections on the Free Love debate, homosexual life in the 1930s, secret sex and World War II, the 1960s and the pill, gay rights, rape laws, the impact of AIDS, and the declining ideal of marriage.

Sex is Not Compulsory: Giving up sex for better health and greater happiness by Liz Hodgkinson (Columbus, 1986) out of print
Discusses the advantages of celibacy for both women and men, and exposes the negative myths, from a non-religious point of view.

Sex, Gender and Social Change in Britain Since 1880 by Lesley A Hall (Macmillan, 2000) £15.99
Looks at sexual custom and practice from 1880 to the present day. Topics include marriage and divorce, sexual knowledge, birth control, abortion, social purity, same-sex relationships, sexually transmitted diseases, legislation and censorship, prostitution, role of women and changing masculinities.

Sex in History by Reav Tannahill (Abacus, 1989) £12.99
A global look at the way in which socio-political and economic concerns have influenced sex and vice versa. Issues include contraception, abortion, AIDS, religion, and the sex industry.

Sex, Politics and Society by Jeffrey Weeks (Longman, 1989) £14.99
Examines the regulation of sexuality in Britain since 1800. Considers changes in ideas, the law, sexual morality, the family, birth control and sexual practice. It also includes discussion of feminism, socialism and eugenics.

The Sexual Century by Ethel Spector Person (Yale University Press, 2000) £30
Examines the centrality of sexuality to our identity. Describes the role of fantasy in desire, its different expression in the sexes, and the way in which desire is inevitably intertwined with power.

Twentieth-Century Sexuality by Angus McLaren (Blackwell Publishers, 1999) £16.99
Looks at changing sexual attitudes in America, Europe and Britain. Considers the views and activities of sexologists, psychoanalysts, eugenicists, feminists, and ordinary men and women. A range of issues are covered, from abortion, contraception and marital disharmony to frigidity, homosexuality and AIDS.

 

For details of other organisations and websites, go to our get help directory.

If you have a further question or want to talk to one of our advisers, go to just ask.

 

(February 2002)