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Raising the Bar: Willie's Chocolate Revolution Burning fat with Willie's chocolate

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06/04/2009

The eccentric chocolatier talks to Charlie Cottrell about his attempts to create the finest and purest chocolate bar in the world, and teach a nation of chocoholics how wonderful real chocolate can be

Hello again. What's new with Willie?

I'm making my new chocolate bar. We finally got through the production problems. I ran all the machines individually to make the bar before but it wasn't until last Tuesday I ran them at the same time - I still need a wrapping machine to put the gold foil on the bars. I was let down at the last minute so I had to improvise and brought 15 people in to wrap them by hand.

I produced 10,000 bars in the first run. The first order was for 12,000 bars and there are two bars in a packet so to wrap 24,000 bars by hand is a nightmare. You can't complain can you?

How is this different from what we've seen you doing before?

This is an actual eating bar of chocolate, before that I made 100 per cent cacao for the chefs and for people who enjoyed cooking. I've used that same cacao to make a chocolate so, technically speaking, it's identical beans but made into chocolate.

Manufacturing using a semi automated production line is a whole different ball game. There are so many different machines and pumps and all that and to do that in six months has been a challenge, to say the least.

What had you expected from this new venture? What surprises were there along the way?

It has taken a lot more work than I imagined. I'm back to my philosophy that you have to put all the hours in that there are in the day so you don't end up wishing you had done that little bit extra. I wake up with my forearms aching.

What did you learn about chocolate bars?

The flavour profile is much more sophisticated because you put it straight into your mouth. There are more variables to consider - melting factors; smoothness; flavour. You have four or five things that have to be right. I must have done about 15 or 20 versions of the bar to get the recipe right. The 100 per cent bar is very different because it's an ingredient and you mix it with other things. You're doing it all in one go with the chocolate.

Your new ready to eat bar means you're taking on the confectionary giants - how big a deal is that?

I don't know if I am, actually. I feel confident from the response I've had - I don't think there's a chocolate like it out there.

Where I differ is I'm making chocolate because I'm passionate about it. I don't have shareholders breathing down my neck. For big companies it's all about margins. I'm a one man show. For me, producing a good bar of chocolate that is credible and is what it claims to be is what's important to me.

You're trying to change the way we see chocolate in the UK? Why?

From a health point of view I don't think people should need to eat so much chocolate. I think they're better off eating a small amount of good chocolate rather than a large amount of rubbishy chocolate.

It should appeal to a wide variety of people from a health point of view.

You're asking people to break with generations of nostalgia - are you expecting a backlash?

Funnily enough, I think this is forgotten flavours. I've been very lucky having a group of guys that worked at all the old companies that I sent samples to and I've drawn on their knowledge of how chocolate was once made; for example, adding some of the sugar right at the beginning with the cocoa nibs when I'm refining them.

It would be unfair to be critical of people's eating habits when it comes to chocolate because that is what's been offered to them.

How will we get our Easter egg fix if we stop buying regular chocolate?

There are some good Easter eggs out there - probably. How do you tell chocolate manufacturers to improve? It's too much about price points.

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  1. Awful web site - I'm sure it is good product but where are the stockists? Essential first of any product web site is where you can get the product - the slick nonsense is merely if you want to find a web site provider!
    Posted by Martin Smith on 12/04/2009 12:35:56
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  2. What a fantastic man and programme he and the programme deserve one of the big awards on offer. Its a pity the rest of the country do not work as hard as Willie and indeed his great Wife, the country would be a lot healthier just like his chocolate. Well done Channel 4
    Posted by Robert T Wood on 11/04/2009 17:54:00
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  3. Willie is a genius and deserves all the praise he gets for working so hard. So glad someone has made dark chocolate more appealing to the everyday buyer. Can't wait to buy a bar and try out some recipes.
    Posted by Alice G on 09/04/2009 22:39:12
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  4. Without fear of contradiction, I watched each of the three episodes with enormous interest, hooked by Willie's infectious and unerring enthusiasm for his product. It was beautifully made, breathtaking television, centering around a natural actor who I believe, has no clue about his gift for entertainment. Having encouraged everyone in the family to watch the first two episodes on catch-up, we all just sat mesmerised by tonight's 'willy/wont he' (sorry about the pun) pull it off final instalment. We wish him all the very best, but remain confident that Willie's product will be huge.
    Posted by Dean Brewis on 09/04/2009 21:20:59
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  5. Willie hello watched the episode Tell me when you received the wrong beans . where were yours that were supposed to connect at venezuela also in japan ?.
    Posted by peter on 08/04/2009 21:10:59
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  6. I love the program because its show a bit of Venezuela . I will try the recipe of the cachapas con chocolate but Willies a question how do you manage to have such a bad spanish (Venezuelan) accent after living there 11 years?. Wonderful program.
    Posted by Lily on 08/04/2009 10:20:08
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  7. I think this is a great program its great to see someone with so much passion for his product,no matter how tiring he is great wife. The idea works great on tv and has had me hooked from the start, I ready want this to work out for all of them.
    Posted by lorrainemerritt on 07/04/2009 21:11:33
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  8. I was born in Peru,my father had a cacao farm in Aucayacu,obviously I grow up eating cacao every day in many forms, I belive it's wonderful for your skin, and the flavour is amazing.
    Posted by Vilma Solari on 07/04/2009 21:11:16
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