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07/05/2008

It's Vegetarian Week 2008 and time to revisit the 'meat is murder' debate. According to Rick Wilson, Director of Nutrition & Dietetics, King’s College Hospital, London, we are in fact omnivores: "Our vestigial appendix and our canine and incisor teeth indicate this." So why do so many buck nature’s master menu plan?

4Food spoke to two vegetarians – one past, one present – to get a better understanding of why anyone would want to ditch steaks for soya.

The moral crusade: Emma Walker

"I was about 8 years old when I decided to become a vegetarian.

There was no one main event - my main reason was for the love of animals and a gradual realisation of where meat came from. All of my family are meat eaters and would always encourage me to try different types of meat when I was younger but I was determined to stick to my choice.

As I had decided to become a veggie at such a young age there was obviously the main concerns of iron intake etc… so I did undergo a few blood tests at the GP just to make sure I was OK. After I was told by the doctor that I was just as healthy as any other child, I didn’t really worry so much about my health.

Young children are growing fast and have difficulty getting enough nutrients into the volume of food they can manage. There is also a problem with iron deficiency in this country in children under the age of five. This can cause developmental delay. Mothers wishing their child to be vegetarian or vegan should seek the advice of a dietitian - Rick Wilson, Director of Nutrition & Dietetics

I will eat eggs, dairy products and so forth but no fish or any other type of meat. I don’t really wear anything leather as the smell puts me off; I tend to stick to the fake leather.

I have absolutely no problem with other meat eaters, as everyone has a choice with their diet (like myself) and I have handled meat in the past (ham or beef) just to feed my dog. The only meat I can’t stand to be around is either chicken or fish as I find they resemble an animal more than a plate of beef, which has no resemblance to a cow, for example.

I could never eat meat. I have often been asked if I've tried meat recently and I was once accidently given a beef pasty instead of a cheese one - took a bite and the taste was horrible...so at least I know I'm not missing out on anything.

Luckily the vegetarian options in restaurants and supermarkets are much better than before. I especially love the Linda McCartney range of food. Restaurants are also starting to realise that more and more people are becoming vegetarian and are increasing their veggie options on the menus."

The medical reason: Phillipa Buckley

"Basically I stopped eating meat because I just don't find it that eventful to eat - just like some people find pasta dull, I don't find that meat adds anything to the taste of my meal and realised I was just eating it for the sake of it. So I tried cutting it out, survived, and carried on. Basically, I just prefer the taste of veggies.

All mothers need to take folic acid supplements when planning to conceive and up to the 12th week of pregnancy. Vegetarian mums who drink milk and eat eggs probably do not need to take any further measures – although there is often a need for pregnant and breast feeding mothers to take iron supplements – there are very few good dietary sources of iron and iron from plant sources is not as well absorbed by the body as iron from animal sources. Vegan mums do need to take special care to ensure that they have a varied and mixed diet which includes plenty of pulses and nuts. If there is a history of allergy in the family then peanuts may need to be excluded from the diet and vegan mums should seek the advice of a dietitian in this circumstance - Rick Wilson, Director of Nutrition & Dietetics

Early on in my pregnancy I just went completely off anything soya (not that I was a regular soya eater anyway). I've never been an egg person and with the limitations on fish/cheeses, I was a bit stuck for protein (you need to eat a specific amount of protein during pregnancy, not only for the foetus but for the extra blood cells your body has to make).

I didn't want a wonky kid, but also didn't have the time (working full time up till 39 weeks pregnant) to sit and count the number and types of beans/pulses that I was eating.

It was just easier to eat a bit of meat - although I am very picky about what I eat and would still only eat it once or twice a week, making sure I ate the max oily fish (two times per week) with white fish in between.

I'm still eating meat as I need the protein for breast milk, (oily fish restrictions still apply) but maybe once a week. Partly I feel that my little girl should be given the opportunity to decide for herself whether she wants to stop eating meat or not, and ensure she has the best start in life. Try as you might, you'll never find a more complete protein than meat and babies and kids have greater demands than we do because they're growing. And again, I couldn't be fussed with bean-counting (or chronic flatulence).

Proteins are made of building blocks called amino acids. Human flesh has a basic scaffold of protein which is also made of these building blocks. The perfect mixture of building blocks to make human flesh is human flesh i.e. cannibalism!! The next best is protein from organisms that are like us i.e. animals and fish. No single plant protein has all the necessary building blocks and so vegans have to have a diet containing lots of different, complementary plant protein. This is why lions only need to eat every couple of days but zebras need to spend most of their waking life eating - Rick Wilson, Director of Nutrition & Dietetics

Obviously being veggie and pregnant can work, but my thoughts were more to give my daughter an optimal start in life and her right to chose later. Because of that I was happy to make some dietary sacrifices (trust me, that's a small one to make as a parent - I miss the full night's sleep more). And convenience was pretty high on the agenda, too.

Once I stop breast feeding I'll probably just cut it out again. But it will definitely still be a part of Lucy's meals until she is old enough to make her own informed decisions. However, this rule will not hold for the inclusion of fruit and veg in her diet!

That's just my personal take, so I guess I'm actually a Wannabe-Veggie."

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  1. The last orange box is incorrect- lions eat much less because the energy density of their food (zebras) is about ten times greater than that of the zebras' food- grass. It is also much easier to digest and absorb. I eat very little meat, though I do eat fish, for two reasons. One, animal meat just doesn't taste much better than plant and fish. As a student I would rather spend my money on less expensive plant food and fish than on smoehting I don't really enjoy. Secondly, I find the treatment of animals by fast-food outlets such as Mac Donald's and especially KFC to be so repulsive that I feel a little sick when I see people eating "food" from those places. The other problem I have is with halal or kosher meat. Firstly, the pratice is unquestionably inhuman. Secondly, "failed" kosher meat- where the animal was not slaughtered correctly and died in extreme pain is put into the pool of non-halal/kosher meat. The killing of animals is not something I have an issue with- it happens so much in nature. Why do we, who like to think of ourselves as beter than animals, have to keep and kill them so inhumanely?
    Posted by alex on 21/11/2009 18:00:18
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  2. Humans need (I think) 22 amino acids to build the protein. 7 out of these amino acids must be taken with food. Our bodies do not absorb cow, chicken or bean protein as a whole but dismantle them into separate amino acids and then build human protein in the right combination. There is enough evidence humans can grow and procreate living on completely plant food. Basically plants' bodies are also build of proteins, so no matter what plants you eat - you always get some proteins. But specifically: beans, grains, nuts and seeds are best sources of protein. Some vegetables like potatoes or cabbage have very little protein but the amino acids combination is almost perfect. Perfect amino acids set is to be found in hemp seeds - it contains all 7 essential amino acids. Next is soy bean - 6. A meal of beans, vegetables and some grains like rice or sweetcorn is already a good source of proteins. These groups of food don't have to be mixed in one meal, they can be taken separately during our day. My source of protein is usually: green peas, kidney beans, lentils, smoked tofu, sesame, sunflower and pumpkin seeds, brown bread, rice, oats, buckwheat, couscous, walnuts, hazelnuts, linen seeds and hemp seed powder which can be added to soups, flapjacks, muesli or turned into shake with bananas (also a good protein source) and apple juice. I do eat cheese, yogurt or eggs sometimes, but mostly my meals are vegan. All above products are also rich in iron and calcium (except apple juice but orange juice will do instead). Calcium deficiency is rather a problem of losing calcium due to acidly diet (rich in meat) then its lack in food. Having lots of different vegetables will keep your bodies in right acid/alkali balance. I'm not a preacher neither, I live with meat-eater partner, dine out and travel a lot. Have been a vegetarian for 13 or 14 years, I don't count anymore.
    Posted by Martin on 05/09/2009 16:13:27
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  3. I don't understand why you have to eat meat when pregnant. You can have almonds, Tempeh, organic yogurt and organic eggs. They are all a very good source of protein.
    Posted by Alex on 28/08/2009 12:05:25
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  4. My mother brought me up from birth as a vegetarian and I am so grateful. I was developmentally normal and unlike many of my peers, was never overweight. If I have children, I will be bringing them up as vegetarians until they are 'old enough to make [their] own informed decision'!
    Posted by Emily on 16/04/2009 16:27:47
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  5. There are whole plant protein. Goji berries for example. Plant protein is more bioavailable when eaten raw in the form of amino acids. This article isn't quite right. Animal flesh is not the best protein when you're eating coagulated denatured protein from cooked meat. There are plenty of vegan mothers who give birth to healthy normal children without the need for milk or eggs either. Vegan and vegetarian diets can be just as if not more healthy than meat based diets. The trouble is there is alot of push from the meat industry to try and convince people they need meat. Other sources of information from studies that aren't funded by the meat pushers suggest that plants are the best foods for longevity and health. Plus they are moral. I don't have anything against meat eaters but I do have a problem with the standard of meat and treatment of animals they accept when they purchase mass produced tortured meat.
    Posted by Travis Richardson on 17/02/2009 08:58:20
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  6. im vegetarian but i don't know how it came about, it was not a concious decision to become one i just went of meat that was about 2 years ago and haven't touched meat since, i do see the point when people say that its wrong to kill animals for food but that was not my reason to stop eating it, some pepole don't see me as vegetarian as i don't have the strong beliefs regarding eating meat but its all down to preference and i prefer just not to eat it
    Posted by amzie on 24/10/2008 08:31:38
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  7. I became a vegetarian when i was 14 years old and i am now 20. I was a huge meat lover and didnt really think about where it came from.I love animals so much and realized that by eating it i was agreeing that its ok to kill animals for food.(which i really do not agree with) so i stoped eating it.Due to my love of meat my family laughted when i told them but they soon knew how serious i was and still am. i have regular blood test and am told i am fine.so why people feel the need to eat poor animals ill never no as we do not need them to survive. What annoys me the most is that some of my family are vegetarians and others meat eaters but we are all huge animal lovers yet it sadens me to think that the love of there gut is more important then the life of the animals tht they claime to love so much. More and more people are becoming vegetairians these days but i feel we dont have that much choice when it comes to fast food or going for a meal
    Posted by hayley on 08/10/2008 14:19:37
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