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Jamie's Kitchen
Take 15 young people on the dole and one celebrity chef...

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Paula
6th Nov 02
I really like Jamie Oliver and believe he has achieved a great deal in a short time but I watched in pain his show tonight. The idea to pick people 'off the dole' and give them a start seems laudable but the technique was certainly questionable. Educationally he seemed ill-advised - asking people to describe eating tempura oyster and expecting adjectives and even superlatives: sweet, sour, amazing etc was cruel. Most of those kids probably did not have the vocabulary or experiences to tap into and fulfill his expectations. Why didn't he give them a tick list? He was setting them up to fail the first test. While Ruth Watson was somewhat more succint and had realistic expectations she still laughed out loud at a boy cutting of asparagus tips. This is an alien world to these kids - where the worst food to be expected was 'stuffing or parsnips' and a good meal was a roast. I felt saddened by the whole proceedings and feel that it could have been better planned - in education lesson planning is 50% of the teaching process. To be a good student does not make an excellent teacher. Perhaps there should have been a prerequisite of basic home economics to age 15??? I'm sorry, I've never criticised a programme before but these are kids' lives. Also, this is academic really as it was all done months ago!
 
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Kara Campbell
6th Nov 02
I was amazed at this show, Jamies Kitchen, and grossly offended by the programme. I have never watched Jamie Oliver before and was open to watching the show for this reason. It was offensive. I consider myself a cultured and educated person. I have never eaten a muscle and may even have thought that the tops should be cut off an asparagus. For Jamie to make comments to young people who most probably have a few self confidence issues as it is was biggoted and insensitive. I thought the point was that they are not trained chefs right now AND that they are from slightly disadvantaged circumstanes? I was horrified at this show.
 
 
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Hazel Martin
6th Nov 02
Thank you for Jamie's Kitchen: it's better than any drama, and I'm already completely hooked -- on the kids, on the concept, and of course on Jamie. I wept to see those kids so thrilled to get a chance to work with him. Marvellous stuff.
 
 
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John Elder
6th Nov 02
We were very dissapointed by the program, found the swearing offensive and rude. Jamie Oliver always came across as a good guy and someone children could look upto. Our children really enjoyed this last shows. Jamie did not come across at all well last night and I hope the 15 chefs do not strive to be like him.
 
 
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Julia Poskowsky
6th Nov 02
I just wanted to voice my opinion on last nights showing of Jamie’s Kitchen: I felt slightly embarrassed for Jamie Oliver ... the program made me cringe. The "real chef's world" and the tone in commercial kitchens is anything but sweet-talk (judging from experience), yet I felt that the portrait didn't do the profession any favour. Swearing, being moody, badmouthing youngsters abilities (youngsters who have not really experienced restaurant food before, leaving alone being in a commercial kitchen prior to this experience). Jamie could have broken with tradition and considered the media as a communication tool, seeing that the main priority of the program is to educate a new breed of chefs. Also… if he doesn’t have the time to concentrate on the program, i.e. wife’s pregnant, a photo-shoot on the side… he comes across as destructed… something he despised in one of his pictured trainees. He’s only proven the point that being a chef is all about lighting fire under people’s arses as opposed to lighting their minds with inspiration: a keen interest for cooking and food and for the catering industry. I believe that it could have been conducted in a more professional manner and Jamie and the producers could have been more aware of their responsibilities. All in all: poorly done, I’m afraid.
 
 
Ben Griffith
19th Nov 02
Not being a Jamie Oliver fan to begin with I didn't expect much from this programme, but tuned in this week purely through a lack of alternatives. What I found was an embarrasingly egotistical foray into cheap publicity masquerading as philanthropy. Jamie's treatment of these "kids" is condescending at best and completely shameful for the most part. Would he like his daughter to be subjected to this degree of humiliation in front a national TV audience for the sole purpose of advancing the career of a shameless, talentless, irritating self-promoter i wonder?
 
 
David Hutton
19th Nov 02
This review was compiled after three episodes-worth (1-3) of viewing ‘Jamie’s Kitchen’, Channel 4, Tuesday evenings at 9pm, winter 2002.

Funnily enough, I am neither attached nor unattached to liking or disliking Jamie Oliver, as I am with most other individuals. I try to judge them on the efforts and actions they undertake, and the meanings and intentions behind them. Now, from this perspective, Jamie is a man of action and directness whom I respect and find extremely watchable. He is a doer, and because of that, I am compelled to watch him on television. He achieves, and is prepared to put in the work, and say the things required (even if some find them unpalatable) to see things through. If some are not prepared for this, then that is their loss. Quite how some are 'grossly offended' by the program is beyond me. I was fascinated by both the program and Jamie himself.

In response to another viewer, I have never watched in pain, rather, I have watched in exasperation at the bad attitudes of some of the students. I have been even more exasperated at some of the reviews of the show, namely those coming from 'droll' critics who suspect Jamie’s motives. To me, motives are irrelevant. If Jamie wishes to make a TV program to a) make money and b) increase his public profile, then that is fine by me, as long as it is interesting and I learn something from the process. Both of these latter conditions have been fulfilled. He did not need to take on 15 kids and train them from scratch in a project that presented the opportunity to damage his bank balance and his reputation. He could have produced a solo or more personalised project, similar to past ventures. Lest not we forget that full-time professional chefs/kitchen-staff could have been hired to staff the restaurant’s kitchen and the matter sealed and forgotten as another triviality. The show, and the opportunities presented to the students we see now would never have come to pass. Jamie's actions speak louder than words, and he seems to have put a lot more on the line than he has retained (or ever will) in return from some of the students, some of whom, if I were in Jamie's position, would have seen the door a long time ago. I will not get personal, but I am sure some recorded incidents will not do their standing any good.

I get the sense that some viewers (and students) do not understand the realities of the modern, high pressure, male-dominated kitchen environments. I also get the impression that some don't quite understand that you don't get anything for free in this world. I read a review that stated that the 'kids' were so thrilled to get this chance. However, what struck me is that it seemed as if they thought they had already won -- many did not understand that the hard work had just begun! Failure, or 'messing', is simply not tolerated in a normal professional kitchen. Jamie is a man of ambition; he always seems to seek the best (be it the best meat, the most direct way of cooking, the best way to chop and so on). These are the values of most top chefs. Therefore, he is training them to operate amongst the best and the have value systems that also seek the best. I see nothing wrong with the assessment scheme - assessment is central to awareness of one's progress. If a technique such as asking students to describe eating tempura oyster and expecting adjectives "and even superlatives" (such as sweet, sour, and so on) is 'unfair', then I suspect the English language needs to be learned more effectively by the students. The "real chef's world" is unforgiving - if you do not learn quickly, you will be out; if you do learn quickly and eagerly, and are happy to receive criticism and learn from it (a trait that is lacking in some students) then you will succeed greatly.

These 'kids' (there are quite a few of older age, but who still act in a younger manner it seems) have been given a great opportunity, and disappointingly, it seems that some have decided not to take Jamie up on this. I am also dismayed at the lack of respect Jamie has been shown at times under recording. If you are presented with an opportunity, and are asked to jump though hoops, then you bloody well jump through hoops, never mind if you don't like raw-fish for or you are 'bored'! At the end of one show, it seems as though a student tells Jamie to shut-up. I am unclear if this is the product of a direct conversation or some clever editing to lure viewers in for next week’s show. If it is the former, then, quite frankly, this is ridiculous behaviour. Employees, be they everyday 9-5ers or TV-chef students should never tell the ‘boss-man’ to shut-up. He is the man who put this individual where they are! Interesting questions are raised on whether some individuals care more about the job/opportunity presented or their ego. To some who have criticised Jamie for being insensitive, I am again disappointed. For an individual who seems to be giving 110% to the multiple projects in his life, incurring pressure from many angles simultaneously, I am dismayed at the crap he has to put up with from people inside, around and on the periphery of the course. People need to increase their ability to gain perspective, the ability to see what someone else's tasks, preoccupations and values are, and not just their own.

To the reviewer who felt "slightly embarrassed for Jamie Oliver", well, I felt this way to at points, but for different reasons. First, because this guys is putting-out big time for these people, and in return, at points, some of them are quite frankly rude, cheeky and take the p***. To those who were disappointed by the 'offensive' swearing I am again dismayed. Get real. Have you ever worked in a high pressure environment? Have you ever had a manager under pressure from his manager, from the bank, his wife et al? On a more general level, do you know anyone from the city? To say Jamie did not come across well, is quite frankly nonsense. To me, he has come-across as more real and hardworking than ever. You think he got where he is by chance? Not at all. This guy works bloody hard, and I'm sure if he didn't, his teachers had a few choice words to offer him. If the 15 chefs attempt to take on his values of hard work and 110% effort they would go a long way.

On the viewer who said "Jamie could have broken with tradition and considered the media as a communication tool", well, I feel that in fact Jamie is VERY aware of the media as a communication tool! Arguably, one of his primary aims (one which he has employed in the past) is to USE the media as a communications tool. Again, this is something I have no problem with.

It is extremely interesting to see Jamie in this mode. It is sometimes exasperating, and overall compelling viewing. I know many who would kill for this opportunity, and who are similarly dismayed by the many so-called 'wasters' on the inside and 'doubters' on the outside. Best of luck to Jamie and the on-the-ball students!

 
 
Ben Taylor
19th Nov 02
I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate and thank Channel 4, and Jamie Oliver on once again providing even more cutting edge entertainment.

I thought the Jamie bandwagon had reached a peak with 'The Naked Chef', where, as so often happens, we would be spun out with repeats and endless new series' with no change to a brilliant yet eventually tiring formula.
Instead of sticking the money on a safe bet, and earning his C4 salary the easy way ("hello and welcome to Naked Chef Series #224"), Oliver has laid his neck firmly on the chopping block both proverbially and in reality.
His latest series, 'Jamies Kitchen' melds the best elements of drama, comedy, soap, lifestyle, culture and reality TV together into a show with just about everything... and cooking! Observant viewers will be able to lift a handful of recipes from each episode, but I think most will take a lot more.
So far I have only heard or read criticisms in the media. Sainsbury's ads might be saturating your love for the young chef, but I think the resentment for Oliver in the press should not be carried through to this outstanding series. Some of the main reasons for these criticisms I can only lead myself to believe, come from viewers who are expecting, simply a cookery program.

And on the basis Oliver has pretty much only done that so far in his television career that's understandable.

Jamies Kitchen however far ascends that genre. Its interesting to see that although there are many complaints over the swearing in this show there are none for shows in a similar vein, Big Brother or for example The Osbournes.
If he doesn't have the time to concentrate on the program, i.e. wife's pregnant, a photo-shoot on the side, he comes across as destructed. This is maybe true if it were simply a cookery program but lets face it there was always going to be more strings to Oliver's bow than that.

The reality ties to the program, wife, baby, trainees, millions at stake on a new business venture, only add to the anticipation, intrigue, irritation and all the feelings which make this show simply great viewing! Life isn't always chocolate and roses, especially when your at the bottom of one of the hardest and potentially most rewarding professions. If you are naive enough to think it is, then this show is simply testimony enough in itself, to the fact it isn't! Equally it's nice to see life isn't so easy at the top, and the show demonstrates this well in its upfront approach to the portrayal of its main character.

Those who are irritated by the show are only reacting to one of the many emotions the show evokes, and to those who might avoid this program because they aren't into cookery programs; I can only equate it to The Osbournes, but with real delivery and content. I personally take my hat off to Jamie and his producors for knocking The Sopranoes off my personal top spot, and not being a 'cookery programme'; fan, that's no mean feat! If however the yardstick by which you are going to measure this program is Delia Smith's Cooking Time', then you're going to be sorely disappointed, and lets face it the whole world swears now, even Jamie Oliver, thank God!
 
 
Phil Roche
19th Nov 02
I have read with some surprise about the comments regarding the program Jamie's Kitchen - some of the comments centre around the language and a few pointers about "disadvantaged kids" - lets face it - this is not the Naked Chef and the program is aired after 9pm so i cannot see the issue regarding a few choice words here and there - and im sure Jamie does not run around saying pukka all the time - he is human after all - I find the comments regarding the way the trainees were handled valid to a point but also amusing - they are not going to learn any other way and any weakness would soon appear through this which is the basis of any learn/teach relationship - everyone has there views but think about it.. if the programs content has prompted any response online or by mail then Ii feel that the program has "worked".... thats TV, this isnt a cookery/recipe show and Ii think that ch4 has done well to present it the way that it has.
 
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