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Jamie's Kitchen
Take 15 young people on the dole and one celebrity chef...
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Paula
6th Nov 02
I really like Jamie Oliver and believe he has achieved a great
deal in a short time but I watched in pain his show tonight.
The idea to pick people 'off the dole' and give them a start
seems laudable but the technique was certainly questionable.
Educationally he seemed ill-advised - asking people to describe
eating tempura oyster and expecting adjectives and even superlatives:
sweet, sour, amazing etc was cruel. Most of those kids probably
did not have the vocabulary or experiences to tap into and fulfill
his expectations. Why didn't he give them a tick list? He was
setting them up to fail the first test. While Ruth Watson was
somewhat more succint and had realistic expectations she still
laughed out loud at a boy cutting of asparagus tips. This is
an alien world to these kids - where the worst food to be expected
was 'stuffing or parsnips' and a good meal was a roast. I felt
saddened by the whole proceedings and feel that it could have
been better planned - in education lesson planning is 50% of
the teaching process. To be a good student does not make an
excellent teacher. Perhaps there should have been a prerequisite
of basic home economics to age 15??? I'm sorry, I've never criticised
a programme before but these are kids' lives. Also, this is
academic really as it was all done months ago!
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Kara Campbell
6th Nov 02
I was amazed at this show, Jamies Kitchen, and grossly offended
by the programme. I have never watched Jamie Oliver before and
was open to watching the show for this reason. It was offensive.
I consider myself a cultured and educated person. I have never
eaten a muscle and may even have thought that the tops should
be cut off an asparagus. For Jamie to make comments to young
people who most probably have a few self confidence issues as
it is was biggoted and insensitive. I thought the point was
that they are not trained chefs right now AND that they are
from slightly disadvantaged circumstanes? I was horrified at
this show.
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Hazel Martin
6th Nov 02
Thank you for Jamie's Kitchen: it's better than any drama, and
I'm already completely hooked -- on the kids, on the concept,
and of course on Jamie. I wept to see those kids so thrilled
to get a chance to work with him. Marvellous stuff.
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John Elder
6th Nov 02
We were very dissapointed by the program, found the swearing
offensive and rude. Jamie Oliver always came across as a good
guy and someone children could look upto. Our children really
enjoyed this last shows. Jamie did not come across at all well
last night and I hope the 15 chefs do not strive to be like
him.
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Julia Poskowsky
6th Nov 02
I just wanted to voice my opinion on last nights showing of
Jamies Kitchen: I felt slightly embarrassed for Jamie
Oliver ... the program made me cringe. The "real chef's
world" and the tone in commercial kitchens is anything
but sweet-talk (judging from experience), yet I felt that the
portrait didn't do the profession any favour. Swearing, being
moody, badmouthing youngsters abilities (youngsters who have
not really experienced restaurant food before, leaving alone
being in a commercial kitchen prior to this experience). Jamie
could have broken with tradition and considered the media as
a communication tool, seeing that the main priority of the program
is to educate a new breed of chefs. Also
if he doesnt
have the time to concentrate on the program, i.e. wifes
pregnant, a photo-shoot on the side
he comes across as
destructed
something he despised in one of his pictured
trainees. Hes only proven the point that being a chef
is all about lighting fire under peoples arses as opposed
to lighting their minds with inspiration: a keen interest for
cooking and food and for the catering industry. I believe that
it could have been conducted in a more professional manner and
Jamie and the producers could have been more aware of their
responsibilities. All in all: poorly done, Im afraid.
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Ben Griffith
19th Nov 02
Not being a Jamie Oliver fan to begin with I didn't expect much
from this programme, but tuned in this week purely through a
lack of alternatives. What I found was an embarrasingly egotistical
foray into cheap publicity masquerading as philanthropy. Jamie's
treatment of these "kids" is condescending at best
and completely shameful for the most part. Would he like his
daughter to be subjected to this degree of humiliation in front
a national TV audience for the sole purpose of advancing the
career of a shameless, talentless, irritating self-promoter
i wonder?
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David Hutton
19th Nov 02
This review was compiled after three episodes-worth (1-3) of
viewing Jamies Kitchen, Channel 4, Tuesday
evenings at 9pm, winter 2002.
Funnily enough, I am neither attached nor unattached to liking
or disliking Jamie Oliver, as I am with most other individuals.
I try to judge them on the efforts and actions they undertake,
and the meanings and intentions behind them. Now, from this
perspective, Jamie is a man of action and directness whom
I respect and find extremely watchable. He is a doer, and
because of that, I am compelled to watch him on television.
He achieves, and is prepared to put in the work, and say the
things required (even if some find them unpalatable) to see
things through. If some are not prepared for this, then that
is their loss. Quite how some are 'grossly offended' by the
program is beyond me. I was fascinated by both the program
and Jamie himself.
In response to another viewer, I have never watched in pain,
rather, I have watched in exasperation at the bad attitudes
of some of the students. I have been even more exasperated
at some of the reviews of the show, namely those coming from
'droll' critics who suspect Jamies motives. To me, motives
are irrelevant. If Jamie wishes to make a TV program to a)
make money and b) increase his public profile, then that is
fine by me, as long as it is interesting and I learn something
from the process. Both of these latter conditions have been
fulfilled. He did not need to take on 15 kids and train them
from scratch in a project that presented the opportunity to
damage his bank balance and his reputation. He could have
produced a solo or more personalised project, similar to past
ventures. Lest not we forget that full-time professional chefs/kitchen-staff
could have been hired to staff the restaurants kitchen
and the matter sealed and forgotten as another triviality.
The show, and the opportunities presented to the students
we see now would never have come to pass. Jamie's actions
speak louder than words, and he seems to have put a lot more
on the line than he has retained (or ever will) in return
from some of the students, some of whom, if I were in Jamie's
position, would have seen the door a long time ago. I will
not get personal, but I am sure some recorded incidents will
not do their standing any good.
I get the sense that some viewers (and students) do not understand
the realities of the modern, high pressure, male-dominated
kitchen environments. I also get the impression that some
don't quite understand that you don't get anything for free
in this world. I read a review that stated that the 'kids'
were so thrilled to get this chance. However, what struck
me is that it seemed as if they thought they had already won
-- many did not understand that the hard work had just begun!
Failure, or 'messing', is simply not tolerated in a normal
professional kitchen. Jamie is a man of ambition; he always
seems to seek the best (be it the best meat, the most direct
way of cooking, the best way to chop and so on). These are
the values of most top chefs. Therefore, he is training them
to operate amongst the best and the have value systems that
also seek the best. I see nothing wrong with the assessment
scheme - assessment is central to awareness of one's progress.
If a technique such as asking students to describe eating
tempura oyster and expecting adjectives "and even superlatives"
(such as sweet, sour, and so on) is 'unfair', then I suspect
the English language needs to be learned more effectively
by the students. The "real chef's world" is unforgiving
- if you do not learn quickly, you will be out; if you do
learn quickly and eagerly, and are happy to receive criticism
and learn from it (a trait that is lacking in some students)
then you will succeed greatly.
These 'kids' (there are quite a few of older age, but who
still act in a younger manner it seems) have been given a
great opportunity, and disappointingly, it seems that some
have decided not to take Jamie up on this. I am also dismayed
at the lack of respect Jamie has been shown at times under
recording. If you are presented with an opportunity, and are
asked to jump though hoops, then you bloody well jump through
hoops, never mind if you don't like raw-fish for or you are
'bored'! At the end of one show, it seems as though a student
tells Jamie to shut-up. I am unclear if this is the product
of a direct conversation or some clever editing to lure viewers
in for next weeks show. If it is the former, then, quite
frankly, this is ridiculous behaviour. Employees, be they
everyday 9-5ers or TV-chef students should never tell the
boss-man to shut-up. He is the man who put this
individual where they are! Interesting questions are raised
on whether some individuals care more about the job/opportunity
presented or their ego. To some who have criticised Jamie
for being insensitive, I am again disappointed. For an individual
who seems to be giving 110% to the multiple projects in his
life, incurring pressure from many angles simultaneously,
I am dismayed at the crap he has to put up with from people
inside, around and on the periphery of the course. People
need to increase their ability to gain perspective, the ability
to see what someone else's tasks, preoccupations and values
are, and not just their own.
To the reviewer who felt "slightly embarrassed for Jamie
Oliver", well, I felt this way to at points, but for
different reasons. First, because this guys is putting-out
big time for these people, and in return, at points, some
of them are quite frankly rude, cheeky and take the p***.
To those who were disappointed by the 'offensive' swearing
I am again dismayed. Get real. Have you ever worked in a high
pressure environment? Have you ever had a manager under pressure
from his manager, from the bank, his wife et al? On a more
general level, do you know anyone from the city? To say Jamie
did not come across well, is quite frankly nonsense. To me,
he has come-across as more real and hardworking than ever.
You think he got where he is by chance? Not at all. This guy
works bloody hard, and I'm sure if he didn't, his teachers
had a few choice words to offer him. If the 15 chefs attempt
to take on his values of hard work and 110% effort they would
go a long way.
On the viewer who said "Jamie could have broken with
tradition and considered the media as a communication tool",
well, I feel that in fact Jamie is VERY aware of the media
as a communication tool! Arguably, one of his primary aims
(one which he has employed in the past) is to USE the media
as a communications tool. Again, this is something I have
no problem with.
It is extremely interesting to see Jamie in this mode. It
is sometimes exasperating, and overall compelling viewing.
I know many who would kill for this opportunity, and who are
similarly dismayed by the many so-called 'wasters' on the
inside and 'doubters' on the outside. Best of luck to Jamie
and the on-the-ball students!
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Ben Taylor
19th Nov 02
I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate and thank
Channel 4, and Jamie Oliver on once again providing even more
cutting edge entertainment.
I thought the Jamie bandwagon had reached a peak with 'The Naked
Chef', where, as so often happens, we would be spun out with
repeats and endless new series' with no change to a brilliant
yet eventually tiring formula.
Instead of sticking the money on a safe bet, and earning his
C4 salary the easy way ("hello and welcome to Naked Chef
Series #224"), Oliver has laid his neck firmly on the chopping
block both proverbially and in reality.
His latest series, 'Jamies Kitchen' melds the best elements
of drama, comedy, soap, lifestyle, culture and reality TV together
into a show with just about everything... and cooking! Observant
viewers will be able to lift a handful of recipes from each
episode, but I think most will take a lot more.
So far I have only heard or read criticisms in the media. Sainsbury's
ads might be saturating your love for the young chef, but I
think the resentment for Oliver in the press should not be carried
through to this outstanding series. Some of the main reasons
for these criticisms I can only lead myself to believe, come
from viewers who are expecting, simply a cookery program.
And on the basis Oliver has pretty much only done that so far
in his television career that's understandable.
Jamies Kitchen however far ascends that genre. Its interesting
to see that although there are many complaints over the swearing
in this show there are none for shows in a similar vein, Big
Brother or for example The Osbournes.
If he doesn't have the time to concentrate on the program, i.e.
wife's pregnant, a photo-shoot on the side, he comes across
as destructed. This is maybe true if it were simply a cookery
program but lets face it there was always going to be more strings
to Oliver's bow than that.
The reality ties to the program, wife, baby, trainees, millions
at stake on a new business venture, only add to the anticipation,
intrigue, irritation and all the feelings which make this show
simply great viewing! Life isn't always chocolate and roses,
especially when your at the bottom of one of the hardest and
potentially most rewarding professions. If you are naive enough
to think it is, then this show is simply testimony enough in
itself, to the fact it isn't! Equally it's nice to see life
isn't so easy at the top, and the show demonstrates this well
in its upfront approach to the portrayal of its main character.
Those who are irritated by the show are only reacting to one
of the many emotions the show evokes, and to those who might
avoid this program because they aren't into cookery programs;
I can only equate it to The Osbournes, but with real delivery
and content. I personally take my hat off to Jamie and his producors
for knocking The Sopranoes off my personal top spot, and not
being a 'cookery programme'; fan, that's no mean feat! If however
the yardstick by which you are going to measure this program
is Delia Smith's Cooking Time', then you're going to be sorely
disappointed, and lets face it the whole world swears now, even
Jamie Oliver, thank God!
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Phil Roche
19th Nov 02
I have read with some surprise about the comments regarding
the program Jamie's Kitchen - some of the comments centre around
the language and a few pointers about "disadvantaged kids"
- lets face it - this is not the Naked Chef and the program
is aired after 9pm so i cannot see the issue regarding a few
choice words here and there - and im sure Jamie does not run
around saying pukka all the time - he is human after all - I
find the comments regarding the way the trainees were handled
valid to a point but also amusing - they are not going to learn
any other way and any weakness would soon appear through this
which is the basis of any learn/teach relationship - everyone
has there views but think about it.. if the programs content
has prompted any response online or by mail then Ii feel that
the program has "worked".... thats TV, this isnt a
cookery/recipe show and Ii think that ch4 has done well to present
it the way that it has.
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