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Melanie
Manchot is a German artist who lives in London. The first programme looks
at her collection of kisses; the final programme features the nude photographs
she has taken of her ageing mother.
Why do
you think we are disgusted by things?
I see it coming
from two sources. The first is from this sense of distaste which we have,
the need to protect ourselves and avoid bodily harm. But I also think
it is socially and culturally constructed. Certain issues and experiences
are considered to be disgusting. I think this is closely linked to our
sense of space, and someone invading that space.
Can you
explain how you use your work to address theories of disgust?
My work about
kissing addresses the idea of someone invading our space. People have
a private bubble around them, even in highly populated public environments.
When you are approached in that situation, you have to transgress that
private bubble. To me the project is about intimacy and spatial awareness.
What emotions
does your work provoke?
People's reactions
to seeing the work are quite emotional. The work puts them in the position
of the person who is being asked to kiss a stranger. They have to ask
themselves how they would react. But because the camera is on me, they
also find themselves in my position. They have the feeling of being
the one on the street, feeling insecure about who to approach and how
to approach them.
I have done
the work in many large cities, including Los Angeles and New York, so
there is also a sense of danger. Sometimes the people I ask to kiss me
are amused but some get quite angry. They think I am some loony. Kissing
is such an intense contact there is a sense of contamination when
you kiss a stranger.
I think that
the kissing work is interesting because we kiss for so many different
reasons in different ways. A kiss can be a sexual exchange but it can
be something quite different.
In Europe,
kissing in day-to-day life is more commonplace than it is in Britain or
the United States. Do people from different cultures respond differently
to being asked for a kiss?
Definitely.
In Britain, people respond abruptly: no, I can't do that. In the United
States, they are more likely to say that they can't do it because they
are uncomfortable with it. In Europe, people tend to be less shocked.
They often say no, but they are more curious about the project.
The fear of
contamination is strongest in America. The reactions there were the most
extreme and verbal.
You have
also addressed the issue of disgust and age in a series of photographs
taken of your mother.
In the most
recent series of photographs, my mother is pictured from head to waist,
naked, but in seemingly unlikely and public backgrounds.
In front of a lake; in the mountains; in front of the Millennium Wheel.
The photographs are taken in such a way that it looks as though my mother
is standing there naked in the middle of the street. In fact, she is protected,
but the way the photographs are taken does not reveal that.
Once again
this addresses the public/private moment. If something is out of place,
that produces sensations of: 'How can this be?'
The pictures
of my mother evoke the idea of the body becoming threatening. Because
she is an older woman, her body has ceased to be representable. Again,
the work produces extreme reactions. Some people think it is beautiful,
some say it is obscene or pornographic.
We don't want
to think about our bodies getting older, not behaving the way they should.
We use all the tools available to us silicone, cosmetic surgery
to try and prevent this from happening.
I think this
relates closely to the idea that the ultimate agent in producing disgust
is death. The ageing body reminds us that we are disintegrating, literally
falling apart.
How do
you think that art relates to disgust?
Art brings
up issues we find it hard to deal with. Disgust is talked about a lot
less than other emotions. Artists quite often seek to address issues which
are at the forefront of our lives but which are not addressed very often.
Some artists
may use disgust strategically, to produce a moment of shock which makes
you engage with their work. This can be a tool to make you look at the
work.
But shock
tactics aside, I think art can address issues quite poignantly, in a non-judgemental
way. Art in a wider sense including poetry, writing and film
can express whole bundles of emotions in a precise way. It can express
what is on people's minds.
Melanie
Manchot is represented by the Rhodes + Mann Gallery, 37 Hackney Road,
London E2 7NX. Tel: 020 7729 4372. Website: www.rhodesmann.com.

Poster project, South Kensington 1998
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Melanie
Manchot in front of a photograph of her mother

Melanie
Manchot collecting kisses

Melanie
Manchot's mother sitting in profile, silver gelatin on canvas 1997
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